(UNITED STATES) Mark Mitchell, the CEO of Rasmussen Reports and a conservative political commentator, has triggered a fresh storm over the H-1B visa after telling Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast that deporting “every single H-1B senior developer at Apple” would be “economically equivalent to deporting 10 illegal aliens.”
Mitchell made the remark on December 8, 2025, offering his own math that one H-1B developer earning $90,000 equals ten undocumented workers paid $9 an hour, and tying the comparison to his claim that tech firms replace American engineers with cheaper Indian labor.

The follow-up comments and reaction
Two days later, on December 10, Mitchell intensified the backlash with a post on X that many Indian‑American professionals read as a direct call to drive them out of the industry.
“I have never in my life wanted anything more than this: To build a new corporate consultancy helping major firms de-Indianise,” he wrote, adding that he would “work until I drop dead” to reduce Indian dominance in US tech.
Those comments landed in an already tense moment for immigration politics in the United States, where work visas sit at the center of arguments about wages, hiring, and who gets to build the next generation of American companies.
Legal distinctions and the H-1B program
Immigration lawyers and advocates say Mitchell’s comparison collapses very different parts of the labor market into a sound bite and blurs the legal line between a government‑issued work permit and unauthorized employment.
Key facts about the H-1B program:
- The H-1B program allows U.S. employers to hire foreign professionals for “specialty occupations”—roles that normally require at least a bachelor’s degree or equivalent in a specific field.
- Employers must file a petition and make wage and workplace promises through the Labor Condition Application process.
- The official government description is posted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services at [its H-1B specialty occupations page], which lays out basic eligibility and employer duties.
Industry impact and human dimensions
Mitchell’s statements hit a raw fault line inside tech, where the H-1B is both a pipeline for talent and a political symbol.
Critics emphasized that H-1B professionals:
- Often earn high salaries.
- Pay federal and state taxes.
- Spend in local economies.
- Build careers that can lead to permanent residency.
- Frequently have U.S.-citizen children, making threats of forced departure feel like threats to whole families.
At the same time, the visa ties workers to an employer, which can create vulnerability during layoffs or workplace disputes.
Demographics and backlash
Mitchell’s “de‑Indianise” message drew particular anger because:
- Indians receive over 70% of the 85,000 annual H-1B visas (per the source material).
- Indians hold 23% of Silicon Valley’s tech jobs in a workforce that is 66% foreign‑born overall.
Many diaspora voices argued that framing Indian workers as a single bloc ignores how hiring works across thousands of companies and teams, and it treats individual careers as a culture‑war target. Social media users described the language as racist, while others defended Mitchell’s right to complain about outsourcing and wage pressure even if they rejected his phrasing.
Political context and concerns
Steve Bannon, whose show gave Mitchell a platform, has long argued parts of the visa system are abused and has echoed fraud claims about Indian IT firms. That mix of fraud accusations and national‑origin talk increased fear among some H-1B holders who have already experienced policy swings, long green card waits, and layoffs.
Important to note:
No immediate policy impact flows from a podcast line — no new law has been passed to deport H-1B workers based on Mitchell’s comments alone.
Policy changes and the 2025 backdrop
H-1B policy had been under heavier review in 2025, with supporters and critics offering competing narratives.
Key policy detail from the source material:
- The U.S. government in 2025 implemented changes including a $100,000 fee for certain new visa petitions. The move was described as aiming to regulate hiring practices and prioritize higher‑paid positions.
- Renewals for existing visa holders were not affected by that fee.
A simple table of the cited figures:
| Item | Figure / Detail |
|---|---|
| Annual H-1B visas (regular cap referenced) | 85,000 |
| Share received by Indians | over 70% |
| Indians’ share of Silicon Valley tech jobs | 23% |
| Workforce foreign‑born share (Silicon Valley) | 66% |
| New petition fee (2025 change) | $100,000 |
| Mitchell’s salary comparison | $90,000 H‑1B = 10 × $9/hr undocumented workers |
Practical implications for workers
For many, the immediate question is not whether Mitchell’s comments will become law, but whether the atmosphere they create could shape future rules or enforcement.
Everyday pressures of H-1B status include:
- A worker typically must stay employed in the approved role.
- Job loss starts a clock, forcing quick decisions about finding a new sponsor, changing status, or leaving the U.S.
- Students on F-1 visas who hope to move into H-1B jobs watch the debate because employer attitudes can affect willingness to sponsor.
Advice circulated in the source material (as of December 12, 2025):
- Keep valid employment and documentation.
- Track official action from agencies such as USCIS, the Department of Homeland Security, and the State Department.
- Treat provocative commentary as politics, not as immediate legal change.
How the commentary affects vulnerable groups
Advocates for undocumented workers pushed back on Mitchell’s framing because it pits two vulnerable groups against each other:
- Undocumented workers often fill lower‑wage roles and can face exploitation due to lack of legal status.
- H-1B workers can be well compensated but may still have limited mobility because their right to stay is linked to a petitioning employer.
Economists warn reducing a person’s value to a wage figure ignores broader effects such as productivity, entrepreneurship, and community ties. The outrage centered not only on the “10 illegal aliens” phrase, but on the implication that deportation is an easy economic tool.
Response within the Indian professional community
Post‑episode, some Indian professionals said the rhetoric revived an old fear that national‑origin backlash can spill into workplace discrimination or harassment.
Reactions included:
- Calls to keep records and stay in status.
- Warnings against making panicked decisions.
- Advice from analysts (e.g., VisaVerge.com) to watch for official agency actions rather than social media commentary.
Broader debate and where things stand
Mitchell is not a government official, but Rasmussen Reports has a prominent role in political media — supporters cite polls seen as predictive in 2016 and 2024, while critics call its work right‑leaning. That profile helped his comments spread quickly among tech workers and immigration groups.
Points of view in the tech community vary:
- Some U.S.-born engineers echoed concerns that companies chase savings.
- Others stressed the role of corporate strategy and the fact that many H-1B hires fill hard‑to‑staff teams, such as chip design and cybersecurity.
For Indian nationals (including NRIs planning careers across borders), the debate can shape choices well before any rule change: whether to accept a U.S. offer, move family, or rely on the long path from H-1B to green card amid existing backlogs.
Legal reality and the recommended response
Immigration attorneys emphasized:
- Deportation is not a simple switch — an H-1B worker who stays in status and follows the rules remains in a lawful category.
- Enforcement actions against undocumented workers involve separate legal and humanitarian issues.
Practical guidance remains:
- Rely on paperwork and official notices, not viral clips.
- Monitor USCIS and other agency updates; expect companies to issue written memos when policies affect employees.
Current status and outlook
Mitchell has not retreated from his statements, and the online debate continues to fuel broader arguments about hiring, training, and enforcement. Until Congress or the administration acts, the issue remains a loud proxy for deeper anxieties in tech and for immigrant families making plans about careers and relocation.
Key takeaway: provocative commentary can heighten fear and uncertainty, but real legal change requires legislative or administrative action—not a podcast line.
Mark Mitchell’s call to “de‑Indianise” tech by removing H-1B workers provoked backlash from Indian‑American professionals and advocates. Critics say his wage-based comparison misrepresents legal differences between H-1B holders and undocumented workers. The 2025 policy added a $100,000 fee for certain new petitions but did not affect renewals. Immigration attorneys advise maintaining proper documentation and following agency updates; real legal changes require congressional or administrative action.
